By depositing her once powerful man Novartis In Greece Constantine Frouzisthe trial of former protected witnesses in the case of the pharmaceutical industry continued today, Filistor Desesbasidis and Maria Marangeli.
Mr Frouzi’s deposition at the ongoing trial is of great value, as the two former protected witnesses have relying on her former strong man Novartis Hellas as a source of information, in order to testify what they “false” for the politicians.
Today, however, Mr. Frouzis told the audience that everything that Destempasidis and Marangel They had claimed, they had no slightest dose of truth. Indeed, the witness expressed the view that the two former protected witnesses were dragged to testify, most likely, by another group higher.
Furthermore, during his current testimony, Mr Frouzis referred to a state of blackmail in which he said he was found to testify to corruption investigators then handled the Novartis case that comparative politicians -opposing SYRIZA -ANEL government -had been bribed.
Shortly afterwards, Mr. Frouzis characterized their Marangel and Destempaside as ‘Willing pistols’noting that “Others pulled the trigger.”
In particular, referring to Filistor Desesbasidis, He was a member of Novartis Hellas, Mr Frouzis told the court, among other things: “It had come in 2009. In the two or three years that passed, there were suspicions that it was circumventing the processes and that he had special relationships with other suppliers. In 2012 a “yellow card” came out. In 2014 he came out a “red” card and was then fired by the company. I was verified after his dismissal, because he ended up being awful and sad (…). I was amazed when on February 5, 2018 I saw my face on television and passing suitcases … “.
Talking about Maria Marangeliwhich was also his secretary while at the helm of Novartis Hellas, the witness noted: “He was my secretary until I left. She remained when I left and that was a little weird. I realized that he stole me for years. She went into my son’s account she put money on her account and then went and lifts them up from ATMs. I turned against her .. The case lasted seven years and the crime was set. “
President: Why say all this about money laundering?
Witness: They were clearly not aware of any politician. They proved to be, as nothing was found.
President: Was there a “black cashier”?
Witness: There were no “black funds”.
President: Why were the protection regime been given to them? Someone was convinced …
Witness: They had no evidence. Someone put on them. They were the two and their company high. They were dragged to do so (to deposit). I told you that sick minds wanted to write stories to come out in the clothespins.
President: Why didn’t you turn to them?
Witness: Try to get into my shoes for a while. I didn’t want to deal with this mud.
President: You are hit immediately. They say that you heard them …
Witness: The less I have to do with them … when I have to do something I’ll do it.
President: Did you have with one of the sufferers (political persons) friendly relationships?
Witness: When, only professional.
Prosecutor: What were your relationships with the two defendants? With Mrs Marangelis there were also rumors that you had closer relationships …
Witness: When, I didn’t even think about doing things private. It was from the beginning and remained especially me. We had a relationship between colleagues. We had formal relationships. But when “red” and “yellow cards” began to come out, things changed …
Public Prosecutor: Did you offend him? Did you call him?
Witness: I am a man I do not offend, I do not shout but when I get cold you understand it right away. Desesbasidis was fired.
Prosecutor: Did he go upset?
Witness: Clearly.
Prosecutor: Where did the order be fired?
Witness: From Switzerland after internal control ….
Continuing K. Frouzis He referred to the impact of his name in the Novartis case on his family life. “My kids became incredible bowling. The whole project was: How will I be destroyed by blackmail to falsely martyred. To say that this politician got money ”, he said.
Prosecutor: How did you understand this mechanism you describe?
Witness: It was clear. Ms. Touloupakis (Corruption Prosecutor who did the investigation into Novartis) shouted me then let’s talk, not to testify. And there in the presence of my lawyers, I was told that it would be good to give names. And even what names.
Prosecutor: That is, did you offer you to testify for specific names?
Witness: Obviously. Of the 10 politicians (for whom the former protected witnesses were finally deposited) some were more … dear for prison.
Prosecutor: Do you say that they shouted you to force you to testify for politicians?
Witness: Yes clearly. And that I won’t have a good time if I don’t say what they want ….
Political persons and Touloupakis
Mr. Frouzis But he also referred to the politicians in which the two defendants brought bribery from Novartis. Indicatively stated that the “The most difficult twin for pharmaceutical spending, due to the measures they had taken, were Samaras – Venizelos”. For Adoni Georgiades and Andrea Loverdo Mr. Frouzis Indicatively testified: “Georgiadis and Loverdos were the most difficult opponents. During their days, the pharmaceutical expense was downed. “
Especially for Antonis Samaritan The witness said that “I never had a personal contact with him.” “I never knew Evangelos Venizelos,” He also testified to add that Ioannis Stournaras knew him from the IOBE as part of the Health Observatory, while his wife, Lina Nikolopoulou “Novartis has never been favorable.”
In addition, the witness said: “I met Loverdos in 2012 in the Ministry of Health’s corridor when I took over as president of SFEE. Salmas was a minister who did his job, but did not make big cuts and changes to us. “
Mr Frouzis still described ‘fantasies»On the transfer of money with suitcases to Maximos Palace and said it was a novel “Written by a bad copywriter.” Subsequently, he was asked by the lawyer in support of the category (of Ant. Samaritan) For the then Corruption Prosecutor Eleni Touloupakis And he answered her as “killer»! “I was terrified even though I’m not scared. I saw people determined to do the job, killers » He said characteristically, referring to the impression he made of corruption prosecutors, under Mr Touloupakis, following a meeting with them.
Ombudsman: What did you tell you about Mr. Samaras?
Witness: They were in the names that had to be given …
Ombudsman: Did you leave spikes for rewards?
Witness: Of course I would be the hero of my time and everything else I wanted.
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