For the prime minister Kyriakos Mitsotakis in which he acknowledged his success in the economy for the possibility of creating a party by his wife, Elena Juliefor him Alexis Tsipras As the only choice to express the opposition but also for the endless philosophical discussions in the government’s cabinets SYRIZA about whom the former prime minister rushed to him, the Panos Kammenos on Thursday night.
As he said to “Autopsy” with Antonis Schroede In Alpha, “I met Kyriakos Mitsotakis as a co -candidate in Athens when he first went. With his family we had close ties, with Constantine we had a father-son relationship. We never had a personal relationship with Kyriakos. I think that in the years he ruled there is no doubt that he was able to be alone in the political scene, there is no opposition. At its positive points are the course of the economy, the second important I believe is the balance with the US, Israel and an foreign policy I disagree with. In what I have contradiction is the ND’s pasoking. To the center was always the ND, when the opening to the right with me Apostolos Andreoulakos and Gerasimos Yakoumatos, Konstantinos Mitsotakis had told us that ND is a large line -up with right and center executives. Another central executives and another are the Simitis ministers with whom we clashed. “
‘Suicide on their own in the opposition’
On the occasion of his assessment that in the opposition “It is the dance of Zaloge, as if they are committing suicide on their own” as “while the economic sizes are excellent, the family’s financial figures are tragic. But this does not come to society as an act of resistance and to say I do not have oxygen. The opposition cannot be grouped and that is a problem, “Panos Kammenos spoke of Alexis Tsipras, saying that the former prime minister is” the only one who can inspire and give a political perspective “.
Especially, in fact, for the PASOK He said that “there is no longer. Although I was contradictory I had a close bond with the patriotic PASOK of Vounatsos, Sgouridis by Michalis Charalambidis. It was PASOK’s soul and there is no longer that. Androulakis in his tones has lost the Simitis modernists to the ND and the patriotic PASOK to other places. It’s an empty shell with a flag of PASOK. “
‘Tsipras must return to politics’
In terms of Alexis TsiprasPanos Kammenos argued that “for me he has to return to politics” describing “a conflict we had for Prespa. If they were not voted on, the government would not go to the elections, with the $ 37 billion that Polakis was right, the elections could be won. Prespa was Tsipras’ gift to Mitsotakis. “
According to Mr. Kammenos, “Tsipras had patriotic governance except the Prespa. It is not dogmatic in the sense that when it makes an agreement for the benefit of the country, it will do it and I trust it. Was there a left prime minister to agree with Israel and the US? “
Asked, then about his current relationship with Alexis Tsipras, Panos Kammenos said, “We are talking and I believe that the move he made made it right but slowly because Tsipras had proven with the governance of the country and the relations he had, that he was a personality from the left. It is he who can give the hope of a new governance. Tsipras was never immature when his homeland was called. Barbaros then did not even enter the Greek territorial waters. As prime minister he made KYSEA and liberation the rules of involvement to me and I to the leaders. The Turks knew that if the Barbaros came in we would sink it and we had announced it to NATO. ”
However, he added that “our last disagreement was in Parliament on Prespa with heavy conversations. We cannot overcome this. Putting rules and seeking cooperation for general political directions I would discuss with him, but not being a Tsipras party official. In order to change things in the country and if there is a need for a conflict with Europe there must be partnerships with different ones. Neither I changed nor he, our cooperation was done with respect for the issues that everyone chose. I have a good relationship with Tsipras himself. I did not negotiate vice -presidents and positions suggested that I became Vice President of the Government and did not accept it. I have no thirst for power and ketches, if I can help the homeland I will do it »
His wife’s party
Panos Kammenos also left open the possibility of a party by his wife, Elena Tzouli, saying “he could get into politics, perhaps the solution was that (for his return to politics). She has teased her to leave active politics. I think that because he has lived through international experiences and policies he might have been the solution instead of an old toxic politician. I will not forbid her to do this. She thinks about it because she’s very tough on her work and fights with her soul. “
In the observation, and that he can delete him, he replied “after keeping me 20 years with all the war we have eaten, I do not think he will delete me in a party that will participate.”
In this context, he also said that “when I suspended the operation of the Independent Greeks I had used the word AGRAGRAPHY, now is the word reserve. Many times I tell friends to ask that I don’t have to go back. I am not for mild politics but for situations with partnerships or to keep national lines and to clash. I will get involved if Samaras makes a party because he will try to fool the Right World in Greece, he did in 1993. Samaras what he wants to do is not an ideological confrontation with Mitsotakis with an anti -war or anti -warning agenda. Samaras wants to take a share of power to negotiate, take 5-10 MPs to go to Mitsotakis’ successor or Mitsotakis himself and ask for ministries. “
“Although I left in 2019 and inhibited ANEL, the contacts with those who came together I never lost. Some are in ND, SYRIZA or nowhere. We are talking to them and if I need to redefine I know it will be by my side, ”Panos Kammenos added.
In a special question, in fact, when he puts his decisions in time he replied “he will depend on developments, I believe they will evolve until February”
The … SYRIZA Councils of Councils
Panos Kammenos also revealed unknown stories from ministerial councils of SYRIZA’s rule by making special reference to the … scuds of Alexis Tsipras.
“Because I lived them, the issue of the Left is special. If they sit on a table to speak, they can talk 48 hours about a 10 -minute issue. There were ministerial councils that started a conversation and started girlfriend and Skourletis and could last 4 days. Alexis then dug me and I was saying “these you can discuss them in Koumoundourou, we must now make a decision” “described Mr. Kammenos.
According to him, “even those who seem to be extreme executives have the mentality of philosophical debate rather than political practice. What is missing is a leader who will come forward and say “the discussions are nice but let’s take power”.
Given this reason he admitted, “Didn’t I manage crazy with some of the ANEL MPs? To fill out ballots you also put people you don’t know. I did not expect that they would go to SYRIZA, e.g. I didn’t expect to go Terrence Cook which was the hard of the right. In 2015 it was a revolutionary right that many were elected. Varoufakis was a mistake we realized soon. If it did not exist in the first half of 2015 we could not request US intervention to escape the Schoeble plan »
“I could vote for the needle”
As he also said, “In 2019 I didn’t even go to vote, in 2023 I went from a constitutional obligation, I wouldn’t want to go because there was nothing that expressed me to vote. I am more ND than ND but I can’t vote for Gerapetritis and Floridis. I voted invalid in 2023. Velopoulos could vote for him but I do not think he has gathered forces in the patriotic area to rule. If I go down without saying anything I will get 5% and enter the House. In 2026 it will be such that citizens will be able to vote in favor of changing the country’s course. I can vote for myself too »
“I agree with a lot with Trump – Russia has welcomed Ukraine”
Panos Kammenos was also asked about him Donald Trump And he said that “I believe in his policy. I regret it that I have a vaccine for Covid and to my children because I see that there are these against vaccines and we called them sprayed and are now justified with sudden deaths such as Trump. Also for the Woke Agenda: Transvesti officers cannot be entered into the army. I respect the different sexual direction but they cannot take children for adoption. I also agree with his policy of equal distances in the fields of conflict. I think it produces peace. If it is in this position and the non -genuine needs something for Greece will pick up the phone and intervene. “
According to Mr. Kammenos’ Welcome Russia to Ukraineforced her to protect the Russian population. Why did the Ukrainian became? To abolish Nord Stream 2 who would take natural gas from Russia to Germany without paying tolls to the Ukrainians. They put Zelenski to create a crisis with Russia to impose sanctions on Russia. “
“I was 147 pounds and now I’m 85”
Panos Kammenos, finally, also mentioned the change in his appearance by saying, “I did surgery because I had reached a point where I could not breathe, I was 147 pounds and now I am 85. I started making a life of natural, I cut meat and drink, I do, I reach fish. I am not completely denied meat but I will not order a steak. Mediterranean diet is the reason for longevity. I eat very small quantities, eating an egg in the morning is the maximum. I walk for two hours, I make pilates, weight gymnastics. I don’t believe in medicines, I’m afraid of these injectables. “
“Anxiety is also basic. I had to sleep for 2 hours constantly for 5 years, I had the responsibility of the Ministry of Defense, elections, ministers’ management. It reaches you to a point where you want to die. I will be involved with politics if I see that I need to intervene for children and grandchildren I am afraid of Europe, I am afraid that it will burst economically, it can also put us in war, ”Panos Kammenos concluded.