The former US president, Joe Biden He lost his words in an interview he gave in October 2023 to Special Adviser Robert Her – repeatedly losing his thinking and struggling to remember basic details of his political and personal life, such as when his son died.
According to audio documentation released by Axios, former US President Joe Biden is heard talking as if he is not realizing what she is saying:
«Well, Um, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I don’t know“, The 80 -year -old Biden replied to a question about where he would save the documents related to his post -presidential work at the Penn Biden Center.
Biden met with Her and his associate Mark Crickbaum on October 8-9, In the context of an investigation ordered by then Attorney General Make Garland about why he maintained secret documents at his home and his former office.
The Biden government had refused to release the recorded cartridges of interviews with HER, provided by Axios yesterday (16.05.2025), arguing that they contained protected material.
Biden, who He was slowly talking with his voice to erase, he repeatedly asked for help to calculate the years of certain events.
“This is what, in 2017, 18, in this area?” He asked in answer to the question of the Special Prosecutor about the activities after the presidency of the Vice -Presidents.
“Indeed, sir,” Her replied.
Then the former president, pausing during his reply, He seemed to believe that the events of 2017 and 2018 correspond to his departure from the Senate (2009) and the death of Beau Biden’s son (2015).
“What month did the Beau die?”
“Remember, in this time context, my son is … uh … he would have been detached or dying and so … he was … and by the way there were still many people at that time, when I left the Senate, who encouraged me to apply for this period – besides the president.”
“But what was happening was … What month did Beau die? My God, on May 30 … “
“2015,” one of his lawyers added.
“Was it 2015 that had died?” Biden asked.
“It was,” the lawyer replied.
“I think it was 2015,” Biden said, still uncertain.
He then had to remind him which year Donald Trump was elected during his first term.
“And what happened in the meantime is that eu … like … and … Trump is elected in November 2017?” Biden asks.
Even when a lawyer clarified that Trump was elected in 2016, Biden still sounds confused.
“In 2016, okay, so … why do I have 2017 here?” said Biden.
“This is when you left the post – in January 2017,” his lawyer replied.
Biden then hesitated: “Then Trump swore, right?”
He then appeared to be moved while discussing the Bo, so Her suggested that they have a short pause.
“Lord, I wonder if this is a good time to take a break, for a while, it would be …”. Hur asked before Biden rejected the proposal.
“No, let me continue and finish it,” he insisted.
The two three -hour Hur sessions with Biden and his legal team took place in the White House map hall, where frequent pauses of the former president are highlighted by the sound of a clock beating in the background.